Hi Jim. Great piece! Too bad I didn't have it to read two years ago when I was trying to figure this all out. I shoot what is left of Kodak's discontinued HIE-135 and cannot afford to waste a frame. If I can't get permission, I can't shoot. After Kodak discontinued the film, I posted questions on several forums asking how to go about getting permission to shoot at various locations and the overwhelming majority opinion at that time was "Shoot first and ask later", which really means "why bother?".
Thanks for the illuminating info. Good luck to all of you wanting to shoot English Heritage and National Trust sites for profit! They maintain strict control of their properties (roughly 1/3 of England/Wales/N. Ireland) profiting from their own photo libraries. Shooting their properties and selling images without permission is literally stealing from them.
One hurtle I have had to deal with is defining myself as a "fine-art", as opposed to a "commercial" photographer. Many location managers assume that since I am asking permission, I will be part of a production crew and make a big impact on the location in my shoot, or that I am going to make a bundle on the shoot and they should get their part of that pie. Fees usually are mentioned. When I explain that I will be having no more impact on the site than any average tourist, and only sell limited edition framed prints in galleries, it is usually not a problem.
I often shoot cemeteries. My favorite cemetery is PRIVATE - no one is allowed to sell photographs from that cemetery. I shoot practice stuff there whenever I get new gear. Many towns have rules regarding their municipal cemeteries - Danville, VA has a law prohibiting anyone being in their cemeteries at night. Another cemetery manager told me not to shoot names on the headstones. Some cemeteries in London (Highgate) restrict all photography and you must pay a fee.
It seems that few photographers, pro or amateur, consider the need to get permission to shoot. Aside from legal rights, it is a matter of courtesy. I have found that being friendly to those I ask gets the best result.
James C. Williams