I have looked at getting the Jobo system because I would like to process my own film. A friend of mine talked about doing the same thing you want to do. I am looking forward to an answer myself. Monte Johnson.

Monte,

The Jobo film processing setup has a very good reputation, works well and efficiently. It is particularly effective with developers which can be used in diluted form and then thrown out after one development use. Homemade daptations usually do not function well because the agitation rate and motionhas to be engineered very carefully or you get uneven development and surge marks from parts causing too much agitation.

There were a lot of products of this kind 20-30 years ago and some were really disasters because the necessary R&D was not invested.

David,
That does answer the question. I figured it was pretty much that way from what I have read, but I know several people have considered the PVC thing. I have no doubt the JOBO system is very good. I have never seen one myself, but here a while back too a real interest in one so I read about them and from what I read I believe they offer quite a bit. I guess I just wondered if anyone had any success with the homemade processing systems. Monte Johnson.

I noticed your interest in a JOBO sysyem. I've had a wet darkroom for nearly 35 years. However, my wife and I turned 75 this year and are moving to a much smaller condo. Thus I'm in the process of selling my darkroom equipment, please see below.

SALE: DARKROOM EQUIPMENT & PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES

DARKROOM ENLARGER. Omega D-5 XL with the Super Chromega D Dichoic II
head and the heavy-duty power supply and timer Cromegatrol, a turret with three excellent Schnieder-Krueznach Componon lenses for 35 mm, medium format (6 x 4.5, 6 x 6,etc.) and 4 x 5" negatives and slides. Prices at B & H in New York for these items and other accessories are: the D-5 XL with a base and the Cromegatrol is $ 3,500.00; the turret to hold the three lens is $244.00; the lens total $965.00 (50mm/f 2.8 @ $230.00, 75 mm/f4 @ $285.00, and 135 mm/f4.5 @ $450.00); five negative/slide holders are $450.00 ($90.00 ea.); D-5 light multiplier $260.00. The grand total is $5,419.00. All inclusive sale price: $800.00.

PRINT PROCESSOR.
JOBO CPP-2 with the optional lift, and a suite of tanks (15) and reels for film and print development. Water temperature can be held to 0.1 C, good color print and slide development as well as B & W is assured. The CPP-2 is $1,646.00 at B & H in New York, and the lift is $246.00. I have about $300.00 invested in tanks, drums, and reels. Take all @ $600.00

ENLARGING EASELS
Bordered
Saunders Omega 11

jolo,

I would love to buy your system, but two girls getting ready to graduate from high school. and my wife getting ready to go to law school I am afraid my time has slipped by me. Thank you for you for the offer if anything changes I will let you know. Nice set up you have. Monte Johnson.

I have used the Jobo system for over 20 years--and developed
about 20,000 rolls on the CPP 2 units. They do a very nice job and the price jolo mentioned is very good if the equipment is in excellent condition. The units are actually quite durable--in that time period I only replaced one drive motor and a couple of minor parts on one machine and
nothing on the other.
The tank systems and reels are just short of being indestructable.
Here is a link to an article I wrote for the Jobo Quarterly
about 10 years ago:
http://www.jobo-usa.com/jq/jq9503.htm#UPDB

Dave,
I have no doubt this system is worth the money. If I had it I would buy it in a second, but just too many other irons in the fire. I am having 16+20 prints done right now which is taking a lot of my spare money. Monte Johnson.

David and Monte,
Thank you for the replies. My JOBO is in fact in excellemt condition. In the dozen years I've used the CPP-2 the only "repair" was to upgrade to the new coupling system for the lift.
In our new smaller quarters I hope to have room for a digital darkroom. Last year at age 74 I took a electronic darkroom course along with students who were weaned on computers. Presently I'm working my way up the Photoshop curve.
Best wishes,
Joe Loesch.

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PRINT PROCESSOR.
JOBO CPP-2 with the optional lift, and a suite of tanks (15) and reels for film and print development. Water temperature can be held to 0.1 C, good color print and slide development as well as B & W is assured. The CPP-2 is $1,646.00 at B & H in New York, and the lift is $246.00. I have about $300.00 invested in tanks, drums, and reels. Take all @ $600.00

Hi, I'm very interested in this part of what your selling. How can I get in touch with you to work out where to send the $$ to, and all that privately? Thank you very much. Jay.

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Monte,

The Jobo film processing setup has a very good reputation, works well and efficiently. It is particularly effective with developers which can be used in diluted form and then thrown out after one development use. Homemade daptations usually do not function well because the agitation rate and motionhas to be engineered very carefully or you get uneven development and surge marks from parts causing too much agitation.

There were a lot of products of this kind 20-30 years ago and some were really disasters because the necessary R&D was not invested.

Does it take the same amount of chemicals as a regular tank?
I always use mine for 1 time, except for the fixer, cause it can last longer.

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SALE: DARKROOM EQUIPMENT & PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES

DARKROOM ENLARGER. Omega D-5 XL with the Super Chromega D Dichoic II
head and the heavy-duty power supply and timer Cromegatrol, a turret with three excellent Schnieder-Krueznach Componon lenses for 35 mm, medium format (6 x 4.5, 6 x 6,etc.) and 4 x 5" negatives and slides. Prices at B & H in New York for these items and other accessories are: the D-5 XL with a base and the Cromegatrol is $ 3,500.00; the turret to hold the three lens is $244.00; the lens total $965.00 (50mm/f 2.8 @ $230.00, 75 mm/f4 @ $285.00, and 135 mm/f4.5 @ $450.00); five negative/slide holders are $450.00 ($90.00 ea.); D-5 light multiplier $260.00. The grand total is $5,419.00. All inclusive sale price: $800.00.

PRINT PROCESSOR.
JOBO CPP-2 with the optional lift, and a suite of tanks (15) and reels for film and print development. Water temperature can be held to 0.1 C, good color print and slide development as well as B & W is assured. The CPP-2 is $1,646.00 at B & H in New York, and the lift is $246.00. I have about $300.00 invested in tanks, drums, and reels. Take all @ $600.00

Looked at your list again, and I think I'd like to ad the enlarger to, with what all it comes with. So basically, I'm interested in these 2 things of yours. Please let me know asap how to reach you, so I can send you the $$, and ask you some questions if I think of more. Thanks. Jay.

Jay,
Contact me via E-mail at jolo@vims.edu, or call 804-642-5101, or write:
Joseph G. Loesch
7622 Ashe Street
Gloucester Point, VA 23062-2003

Do you still have Eseco sm 800 for sale? jheadley@smartt.com